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Monday, December 31, 2012

Analysis (in red) of last years predictions (in black)


ANALYSIS OF 2012 Predictions

Quote:
Originally Posted by Venkytalks View Post
Happy New Year 2012 and Refinements of Long Term Predictions

Politics and Military: The main changes seen this year have been with regard to the Jasmine revolution. Most of these have taken place in Arab countries with low per capita GDP (Egypt 2000$, Libya 3000$, Tunisia 1000$, Syria 10000$, Yemen similarly low).

In all of these countries, military dictators with erstwhile super power support have fallen – Libya and Syria remainders of Soviet empire, Egypt American empire. The main reason for superpower involvement has been oil economy of middle east. Egypt, Syria and Tunisia don’t have much oil, Yemen and Libya have antiquated oil infrastructure requiring capital infusion, making cost of extraction much above 25$ per barrel.

While much has been made of non-militant Islamic nature of the revolution, it is likely that most if not all of these countries might degenerate into sectarian conflicts- 

happened in Egypt but not so much in Libya - clearly the presence of oil determines the level of US and Western intervention . 

Violence even in non-oil producing countries is likely to have a spill over effect into Soudi and Kuwaiti administration - 

did not happen fortunately and life in oil economies have stabilized

This revolution is therefore deleterious and will damage the stability of the entire region. 

(Maintain this as we observe the Egypt fiasco and the possible domino effects it might have) 

This is a big negative for India and for oil prices going forward. (Brent is 20$ premium over US crudes)

Broad long term directions emerging out of this middle east churning are likely to be:

1. Increase in cost of oil production. This is likely to emanate from the increased social sector spending required from Saudi and Kuwaiti rulers to placate their population. 

This happened in Kuwait as every citizen got a silver jubilee present 

So real cost of production will include the increased welfare expenditure. This is a big cost compared to the rock bottom prices of extraction currently.

(I maintain this prediction which is reflected in Brent Crude)
2. Increasing distancing of US from the crisis. US has greatly improved the oil infrastructure of Iraq but US has benefited little. US is now shifting to Mexican and Brazilian Crude, Lousiana Crude, Gasification of coal, Shale gas and fracting extraction methods, and Canadian tar sands as their main energy source. 

This turned out to be the single biggest economic game changer
3. Increasing competition for middle eastern crude between Europe and China, with USA standing aloof is now likely. US will not invest in a region where it is not getting returns in terms of oil 

I maintain this prediction
4. Increasing premium for Brent Crude, currently 10$ above WTI on Nymex. In times of stress this is likely to increase to a high of 20-25$ above WTI in times of geopolitical tension 

This is systematically happening
5. Chinese growth even during these recessionary times is likely to push the remaining excess capacity in Soudia (currently producing at 85-90% of total capacity) to full capacity utilization within 3-4 years. 

Soudi still having good excess capacity. We need to wait and watch for this - it might take 6-7 years now with Chinese slow down and full blown Euro recession
6. India will be a passive spectator, deeply affected by this premium for our own crude, benchmarked to Brent. 

Maintain this
7. By 2016, Chinese growth is likely to be stifled by increasing energy prices. US will stand unaffected because of their national resources. Chinese growth is likely to moderate and be around 7-8% per annum because of these two stifles i.e. 1. Oil price increases in Brent and 2. Decreased capacity for Europe and USA to consume Chinese manufacture, lack of markets. 

The slowing of China started in 2012 and I would expect a 5-7% growth in the future decade because of high base effect

Chinese responses to this situation will be two fold.
1. Increased conflicts in South Chinese oil exploration 

Happening in South CHina sea as we speak
2. Increased links with Iran.

 Not so much as I expected but most Iran exports are to China and India

US is unlikely to expend capital on a situation which does not benefit directly. Decreasing production of North Sea oil is likely to push UK and Norway to increased dependence on Brent. France, Germany and Italy also heavily dependent on Brent and are likely to see no growth. Increased military co-operation between European nations is likely from 2014 onwards, probably under British leadership – so UK is likely to stay out of the Euro but is likely to lead military adventurism in Iran, Iraq, Baluchistan, Algeria and Libya. Of the Euro zone, it has the strongest military and blue water navy. They are likely to acquire a Aircraft carrier 

(they are comissioning 2 carriers and are going through it right now but cutting military spending overall thanks to Afghan savings - following US steps in leaner but meaner military) 

(currently lacking) and increase fighter jets and cruise missile production. These military expenditures might get ready ‘army” recruits from the less developed Euro zone and Eastern Europe, since employment generation is likely to be sluggish in these regions.

(not yet, till a hot war erupts)

One can expect at least 2 hot wars in the next decade. One is likely to be in Argentina, since, the Falklands might generate enough possibility of new oil resources – this war is likely to push UK to get a Aircraft carrier - happened. Chinese are likely to acquire 2 aircraft carrier groups, one for Indian Ocean Arabian sea and one for south Chine sea, to protect their oil economy. 

Guys, I successfully predicted the stealth acquisition of an air craft carrier by China based only on economic probabilities - when nobody knew about it ! And the second Chinese carrier is probably on the way - check this link Naval Air: The Phantom Menace Of More Chinese Carriers

The second is probably Iran. 

(didnt happen but could still happen by 2014)

Exact flash points in the likely war is difficult to predict. Most likely to be Israel/UK joint attack on Iran expecting to effect a regime change. Probable in 2016. Possible scenario is Iran causing sectarian destabilization of Iraq, along Shia Sunni lines, with civil war and Hezbollah like activity by Shia militants, resulting in an oil spike. Since USA is likely to disengage from Iraq, civil war or partition of Iraq is likely. Finding it impossible to tolerate this situation, UK and Europe will attack Iran with Israeli support. Iranian meddling is likely to increase only if it is sure of Chinese offtake of its oil through transKashmir oil pipeline. This pipeline is likely to be built in 2014, after the current recession gets over and oil prices shoot above 150$ per barrel. War is very likely if Brent shoots above 300$ per barrel thanks to Iraqi instability.

Other possible flashpoints are Saudi Arabian militance/Jasmine like event.
The probability of war has receeded because of the higher than anticipated Euro recession. So with China cooling, there is going to be less resource competition. Which is good news for us in India.

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Originally Posted by Venkytalks View Post
In India’s own backyard, two main flash points will be

1. Baluchi militancy. The origin is the Pakistani highjacking of the baluchi gas fields for their own use giving little to the Sunni Baluchi. Iran also suppresses the Sunni Baluchi, resulting in them being poor tribals. Chinese intervention in this situation is likely to defuse the crisis, since Chinese have interests in piping the Baluchi gas to China.

No signs of this yet

2. TransKashmir pipelines from Pakistan to China are likely within 3-4 years and will ratchet up India China tensions. Damming of the Brahma putra will also cause tensions.

No signs of this. Brahma putra row is still incubating

Meanwhile the Pakistani situation is fast becoming intolerable for whole world. A general degeneration of Pakistan, Afghan, Uzbek/Tajik, Baluchi regions into internecine tribal warfare is likely. Pakistan, like India, is corrupt and inefficient and very populous. Economic failures of Pakistan very similar to India but the people of the tribes are more aggressive and war like, making the situation more explosive than UP/Bihar, where people are like cattle and accept the crap.

No signs of this yet

Again, exact flash points and exact way the situation will deteriorate are difficult. Broadly, a complete fissure with USA is likely within next three years. Pakistan military is likely to join lock stock and barrel with Chinese dictatorship, but this will cause great hardship to the common people because of economic failure. Volatile situation is inevitable.

No signs of this yet

Ultimately, China, Pakistan, Iran, Shia Iraq, Syria, Afghanistan rump, North Korea, Burma and parts of French Indochina will form an Axis with probable productivity of 10 trillion combined (including 2-3 trillion from Russia which will give outside support).

No signs of this yet

Against this axis will be the Euro zone, Soudi and similar oil dictatorships, Japan and sundry affected east asian economies of some 20 trillion combined GDP. USA will stand away, but sell military hardware to the allies and India, Bangladesh, Lanka and many isolationist east and south east asian countries will also stand away, although they will diplomatically support the European alliance.

No signs of this yet

Probablilities:

1. One hot war in middle east in next decade = 90%
2. Hot war within 3 years = 30% (probably pre-emptive strike against Iran by retreating US and Euro powers with Israeli help – before the alliances and ententes are sewn up) No signs of this yet
3. Iran withstanding the strike without regime change = 70%. Iran is too populous and powerful to crumble like Iraq, the people are solidly behind the regime and are patriotic.
4. Chances of Iran rebuilding efforts with Chinese help after strike = 90% (Iran will definitely seek help away from Western alliance and Chinese are sure to accommodate)
5. Degradation of Egypt into economic turmoil with militancy within 3 years with economic failure and loss of productivity = 40% Happened already
6. Libyan turmoil with poor oil productivity continuing for many years = 40% (situation already exists and is likely to deteriorate) No signs of this yet
7. Turmoil in Afghanistan = 70%
8. Turmoil in Pakistan = 90%
9. Turmoil escalating in Baluchistan = 60% No signs of this yet
10. Chinese solution for Baluchi turmoil = 10%
11. Iran transkashmir pipeline = 80% by 2015, 100% by 2020 No signs of this yet
12. US strike against Paki Nukes = 20%. They are unlikely to face the strong Pakistan military, who have already taken counter measures and have moved their nukes.
13. US leaving Pakistan within 2014 = 60%

No signs of this yet
Basically there has been status quo in South Asia. Which is good news. Now that Obama has won, we need to see in 2013 and 2014 if any of these likely scenarios emerge or not.
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Originally Posted by Venkytalks View Post
Economics Global.

1. US slow growth for next decade with subpar to nil growth = 100%. Total per capita GDP has hit peak productivity and is unlikely to improve from here

While I maintain my peak productivity theory, US has shown resilience and innovation in its responses and changed the game - so I feel US will do better than I previously anbticipated

2. Europe is likely to decline because of oil pressures and decadal growth might be nil or even negative because of aging.

Is happening 

3. Japan likely to show nil growth or a decrease of GDP per capita as aging continues

Is happening 

4. China might show moderate 7-8% growth but will grow year after year, because of good economic policies and good governance. Doubling of GDP to 10trillion $ is inevitable by 2015 or 2016, with luck by 2020 they might be 15 trillion economy, on par with US and Europe. Good place to invest.

Slowing of Chinese growth happened to 7-8%

Risks: Geopolitical ambitions might cause very volatile stock market. Risk of another cold war (10%) with US and Euro and Japan might limit the possibilities.

I maintain the cold war prediction if India performs well and provides an alternative for capital deployment

5. Russia likely to double per capita GDP to 25000$ and a final 2-3 trillion output, despite aging/declining population, over this decade. Good place to invest

Russia had a disastrous year but should still catch up by 2014 as commodity consumption increases

Risks: Geopolitical adventurism with China might endanger their economy. (2% chance – Russians are smart enough to stay away and reap the rewards of oil and mineral wealth)

Russia is likely to stay withdrawn and become a military supplier only

6. Brazil will show strong growth to 25000$ per capita GDP over this decade . They will probably reach 4 trillion with luck if enough price escalation for their resources is achieved. Best place to invest

Slowing of commodities has exposed Brazilian weakness. Because of high base of per capita productivity, they may not transition to Southern European levels of productivity in this decade

Risks: Communistic tendencies might resurface with corruption and crony capitalism. Poor governance might reduce stock market return

This has not happened

7. India. Likely to show 6-7% long term growth as detailed later. Good place to invest.

SLowed to 5%

Risks: Multiple governance deficits and geopolitical stupidities are likely, limiting growth to no more than 6-7 %. Returns in dollar terms are likely to be more moderate than in Rupee terms.

Maintain this prediction

8. Small emerging markets: Turkey, Malaysia, Indonesia, Vietnam, Thailand likely to be the best emerging markets for returns.

Maintain these but removing Thailand from list - Thailand is likely to implode further. 

Middle east unlikely to get investment because of turmoil = further pressure on oil economy as their population has no other resource or human development possible.

This unfortunately seems to be continuing. Productivity of their native populations still very low.

Best dollar portfolio for long term = Brazil 30%, Russia 25%, China 10%, small emerging markets 30%, India 5%.

Bad miss here although prediction was for long term - Brazil and Russia had very poor years in 2012. I would change weight to China>India>Brazil>Russia now - Say China 30%, Small emerging markets 30%, India 25%, Brazil 10%, Russia 5%.

Probable size of global investment portfolios over next decade = 1 trillion per annum for a total of 10 trillion over next decade = 50 billion per annum of foreign capital into India as FII, FDI etc.
The poor quality of Russian and Brazilian growth was overdependent on cmmodity cycle and not on oncreased productivity. China and other countries like Malaysia and Indonesia (despite political risk) are likely to increase their productivity by double - and so are the best long term bets. India will also double its productivity because of low base effect and therefore is an even more definite bet (because we are movong from 500$ to 1000$ productivity while others are moving from some 5000$ to 10,000$ productivity - which is more difficult. Turkey is unlikely to perform as well as I previously expected because of high base and poor Euro zone situation.

Originally Posted by Venkytalks View Post
Indian Political situation:

Continues to be challenging. Original scenario continues to play out. Congress and BJP have deteriorated rather than improved over last one year. Chances of poor political governance probably 100%

Maintain - fully exposed now

India economic situation.

India is the poorest and least developed large country in the world. My simplified understanding of the situation (see Venkytalks for a more detailed discussion as posted elsewhere in RE bulls thread, stock advice thread etc of this site) is as follows.

Most countries have achieved 10,000$ productivity including Mexico, Brazil, Malaysia and Russia. China and Indonesia re at 5000$ productivity levels.

India is much lower at 1000$ per annum levels. Our total GDP of 1.6 trillion comes from 1 billion people at 500$ per capita productivity (= 25000Rs per annum) with output of 500 billion, 200 million at 5000$ per annum levels (= 20,000Rs per month) for 1 trillion $ and 5 million people at 25000$ per annum productivity (=1 lakh per month) for 125 billion $ for a total of around 1605 billion = 1.6 trillion $ using ball park figures.

Our middle class is therefore at 5000$ productivity and manager class is at 25000$ productivity. Our poor classes at 500$ per annum are unproductive subsistence level of productivity.

Assuming a 7% growth, in 10 years, output of 1 billion people will be 1000$ per annum.

The middle class of 200 million will double to 400 million people with output of 5000$ per annum or 200 million with output of 10000$ per annum, both scenarios resulting in output of 2 trillion.

In the former situation, more inclusive growth will take place, but people already at 20000 pm productivity will continue to earn only 20000 pm after 10 years which is a pernicious situation.

In the latter scenario, there will be no increase in number of people in the middle class, but their productivity will increase to 40000 pm levels. Since the poor will be still at 1000$ per annum = 5000 Rs pm levels, this will increase disparity.

In the manager class, again, either the populations will double to 10 million people at 1 lakh per month productivity or population will remain same at 5 million with 2 lakh per month productivity. Since these are the people who can afford proper real estate, getting an exact handle on which of the two scenarios is likely is important.

My estimate is of course the middle of the road. So from 5 million they will become 7 million at 35000$ per capita, amounting for 250 billion dollars of productivity. 35000$ is close to the peak productivity levels of Europe, Japan and USA and as explained earlier, it is unlikely to exeed this level in a country like India.

Most of this doubling will come from the children of already existing manager class and engineers.

An analysis of these numbers assuming 7% growth per annum meaning a doubling after 10 years reveals the economic failures inherent in our low grade economic growth. Without growth above 10% (i.e 3 trillion economy in 2017 vs 2020 in above scenario) India faces a disaster. Governance failure is costing us a terrible price indeed.

The poor quality of politics witnessed in 2011 is indicating that India cannot grow consistently above 7%.

Proved to be True

All growth above 7% is a mirage – caused only by high inflation and currency depreciation hiding the subpar performance.

I maintain this

Already, the 1.4$ trillion economy of 2010 has failed to translate into 1.6 trillion in 2011 – instead, the currency depreciation has wiped out our growth and real growth is probably negative. Assuming 7.5 % eventual growth in 2011 and 15% currency depreciation in 2011, our GDP is probably now 1.2 trillion instead of 1.6 trillion, i.e negative growth of 7.5%.

Probable long term trends over next decade:

1. Inflation will be 7-10% per annum for this decade

True for a year anyway

2. Currency depreciation of 5% per annum can be assumed, contributing half of the anticipated inflation

Happened

3. Growth will be 6-7% over the decade. Any growth above 7% will be accompanies by higher inflation and Rupee depreciation which will be above the norms causing degrowth rather than growth as seen in 2011.

Dropped even below 6-7%

4. RBI stimulus of rate reduction will fail because any growth ahead of fundamentals by such artificial stimulation will cause inflation and depreciation to wipe out the growth in dollar terms

In the event, they cut very little and cuts failed to have any effect

Extreme long term trend – inevitable growth of India over next 3 decades causing a 5 fold increase of productivity from 1.2-1.4 trillion currently to about 15 trillion eventual output of 10,000$ per capita.at a population of 1.5 billion.

Maintain this with lower bias - because of governance failures

This will compare to Chinese output of 50 trillion with population of 1.5 billion at output levels of 35000$ per capita in the next 3 decades in best case scenario and worst case scenario of 30 trillion at 20,000 $ per annum per capita productivity.

This is likely on track

Note: Growth from 1 to 15 is a 15 times growth while 5 to 30 is a 6 times growth and 5 to 50 is a 10 times growth.

Hence good picks in India will be better on absolute while Chinese companies more sure

Inevitability of India increase in production has reduced somewhat given the much higher levels if misgovernance witnessed in 2011, while best case scenario for China has improved, given the great performance of its govt in 2011.
The levels of governance has fallen so much more than I anticipated that if the govt falls, all predictions of long term growth for India are off

Originally Posted by Venkytalks View Post
I have come up with some new concepts for asses allocation.

1. Asset of multiple (3) decades: This is the One asset which will decide whether your investments will sustain you during your retirement or not i.e, if you entered this in your thirties, you will be very comfortable in your sisties and beyond.

In the 1960s, it was real estate (plot in South Extension), in the 1970s it was real estate (Janakpuri and Munirka flats), in the 1980s it was real estate (DDA flats everywhere), in the 1990s it was real estate (Gurgaon) although it is still not 3 decades, but already it has proved to be the investment of 3 decades from returns in 20 years itself.

So in history of India, you cannot afford not to be in real estate. You cannot retire without owning your own home at least

My prediction for asset of multiple decades for 2000s (by 2030) = real estate.

This is because I feel that 2010 to 2020 will be a bad year for stocks and with high inflation and depreciation of currency and probable wars in the region, stocks will be more risky and real estate should do equally well or better than stocks even into 2030.

My prediction for asset of multiple decades for 2010s (by 2040) = stocks.

It is inevitable as India matures that the hinterland will be opened up for real estate development, which will reduce the premium for RE. After 2020, real estate will lose its charm and stocks will outperform.



2. Asset of the decade: This is the asset which on holding for many years in a buy and hold strategy, delivers best and safest returns. Safest is important because if another asset gives better returns with less risk, it is preferred.

In the 1960s it was FD (not real estate because it was a difficult market to enter), in the 1970s it was FD (not real estate because of same reason, not gold because it was too volatile), in the 1980s it was real estate (safer options and increased income made it possible to reduce risk, gold was volatile and depended on Rupee depreciation), in 1990s it was FD, in 2000 it was stocks (safer and more liquid than real estate, safer than gold due to lack of currency risk).

My prediction for 2010-2020 = real estate.

Stocks will be volatile and risky. this current decade is the decade when real estate will guard against inflation. Poor governance and corruption and black money will ensure that real estate will still be the best investment. I think FDs will also be a good investment over this decade. I prefer real estate over FD because currently, real estate is better regulated than in the 1970s and 1960s and safer investments are possible

3. Avoidance of a decade: The asset you should avoid in a whole decade because it kills the return - the rest are OK

In 1960s it was gold and stocks (FD and real estate were OK), in 1970s it was stocks (Gold, FD and real estate were OK), in 1980s it was gold (stocks, FD and real estate were OK), in 1990s it was gold and real estate (FDs and stocks were OK), in 2000s it was FD (stocks, real estate and gold were great).

My prediction for asset to avoid for 2010-2010 is again gold. Stocks, real estate and FDs should be OK.

4. Asset of the year:

This is the asset for either short term trading or the asset in which long term investors should increase exposure because it will give the best return.

Asset of the year in 2009 was stocks, in 2010 it was real estate, 2011 it was FD.

My prediction for 2012: Asset of the year is FD.


True - gave 10% return without risk. Better than stock and real real estate and gold - all of which did not outperform by much and had higher risks attached

5. Asset to avoid for the year: This is the asset which is likely to kill returns.

For 2008 it was stocks, for 2009 it was FD, for 2010 it was nil (everything was good), for 2011 it was stocks.

My prediction for asset to avoid in 2012 is gold 

In the event, gold did give some 10% return but it was a volatile and risky return - you could have got same returns from a dynamic bond fund without risk

Gold is self evident - risky and multile currency event risks which are unpredictable. Real estate should be OK if later this year, if prices correct and RBI lowers rates. Stocks should be OK if they fall some more and Rupee depreciates some more. FD is anyway best for the year.
I maintain all these concepts. Will come up with the next years assets to chose and avoid by the new year, along with some newer concepts that emerged during discussions here.

Originally Posted by Venkytalks View Post
Politics: Samajwadi and Congress form govt in UP.

Happened without need of Congress except for CBI at center

Based on poor performance of BMW so far - firing ministers has only confirmed that they were corrupt. Extreme stupidity.

She did fall badly

Minority reservation should pay rich dividends for Congress.

It did not

Ajit Sigh might perform very well in Western UP

He didnt but joined the central cabinet

, Congress and SP might have informal seat sharing and increase muslim vote share. BMW will lose muslim and brahmin votes - she did congress will get brahmin votes. SP plus Ajit plus Congress is a winning combination. BJP will be wiped out in UP they were (also in Uttarakhand and Punjab - not so much !).

Inflation: Will stay firm.

Happened

Food prices will fall

They did

but imported inflation will continue.

It did

I expect about 7-9% inflation for 2012.

Came true

inflation will be fed by NREGA - farmers will earn less on crops but their NREGA money will go a lot longer with low food prices, making the rural economy buoyant.

Happened

Currency: Dollar will stay firm. It did Rupee will be stable with negative bias it was . Rupee at 54 chance is 60%, Most likely chance came true Rupee between 54-60 chance is 30% and Rupee below 60 is 10%

Economy: It will degrow for one quarter till budget and then bounce back very strong. Rural economy will be strong and will lead the bounce. Final growth for 2012 about 6% It was worse - it did not bounce back and remained progressively weak

Stocks: Will be stable or fall 5-10% in first half of 2012. Second half is likely to outperform. Both came true Sen should fall below 15000 in the first half (50% probablity - great buying opportunity).(it fell to 16000 kind of levels and gave good buying opportunity) It should cross 18000 at some time in the year (60% probability) (it did). It might cross 20000 (30% probability - will be a sellin opportunity and a chance to rebalance stock portfolio and shift mutual funds to more defensive bets) (it came close to 20,000

Bonds: Should be stable. They were Any rise is unlikely They didnt rise. I dont think RBI will be able to lower rates, they were not able since it has to defend Rupee and that requires rates to be high. Stable to mild fall is likely. Best asset in bonds is a bond fund - will benefit from any fall. My prediction for yields at end of 2012 is above 8% came true (30%) and above 7% (70%). Not more than 1% fall in other terms. Came true

Gold: It should be stable with negative bias - I expect no change with gyrations of plus minus 10% over the year. Avoid this asset.

In the event it gained 10% but basically it was stable

Sector allocations for 2012:

Maintain Bonds 30% (shift maturing FDs and FMP to short term funds, shift some 10% interest into equities when markets fall)

Did well

Stocks 30% (should have fallen from 2011, increase exposure at falls)

Did well and buy and dipd to 16000 worked beautifully

Real estate 25% (no fresh allocations after 2011, maintain previous, dont sell existing investments))

Correct recommendation - fresh buys did less well than 2011 and before - did not beat 10% FD return , but prices were stable to rising, so buys from 2011 and before performed well on a hold strategy

Gold 0-5% (cut exposure to 5% now, get rid of rest if gold reaches 28000-30000 levels)

Correct advice - gold did not neat FD but provided a good exit above 31000.

Global Funds: 10-15% (shift gold into Latin American funds, energy funds, global real estate fund)

Wrong advice - global funds did dismally, despite the currency falls. Global real estate fund however did well. I recently sold all global funds except real estate fund at good dollar prices - since I expect dollar to be firm .

Equity allocation: Mutual funds 50%, direct stocks 50%

For direct equity

Banks 15%
IT 15%
FMCG 15%
Pharma 15%
Auto 10%
Power 2-5%
Plastics 2-5%
Metal 2-5%
Utility 2-5%
Paints 2-5%
Gems 2-5%
Services 2-5%
Agro 2-5%
Misc 2-5%

This allocation would have done well if all the banks were private sector. 

2012 Recommendation (choose from following stocks according to sector allocation)

1. HDFC Bank, (now)
2. Yes Bank, (now)
3. ICICI Bank, (after 3 months)
4. SBI (after 3 months)
5. Infosys, (now)
6. TCS, (now)
7. HCL, (now)
8. eclerx (now)
9. Godrej, (after 3 months)
10. Bata, (now)
11. ITC (after 3 months)
12. Sun, (after 3 months)
13. Cadila, (after 3 months)
14. Lupin, (after 3 months)
15. Divi (after 3 months)
16. Bajaj, (now)
17. Bajaj Electricals (now)
18. Mahindra, (now)
19. Exide (after 3 months)
20. BHEL, (after 3 months)
21. Crompton greaves, (after 3 months)
22. Cummins (now)
23. HiTech, (after 3 months)
24. Sintex (now)
25. Hin Zin, (after 3 months)
26. Tinplate (after 3 months)
27. IGL, (after 3 months)
28. Power Grid (after 3 months)
29. PTC(after 3 months)
30. Asian Paints (after 3 months)
31. Gitanjali, (after 3 months)
32. Rajesh (after 3 months)
33. ICRA (after 3 months)
34. United Phosphates (now)
35. Talwalkars, (now)
Most of these stocks did well with the notable exception of Infosys, SBI, BHEL, and Crompton greaves. Sell the laggards and buy the leaders. My timing recommendation for most of these was correct. Except ITC and Asian Paints which are in stratosphere after I exited - buy both after 30% decline, since companies are good, especially Asian PAints


Originally Posted by Venkytalks View Post
Chances of general election in 2012 is virtually nil. I was talking about the state elections and my previous (2011) long term political predictions for India (into 2020 that was)

Frankly, BJP's stupidities know no bounds. Probably Thakurs will go with SP or even congress. Everybody knows BJP is finished in UP.

Fatichar bhai, hame tho weekend type part time job suit karega - IREF mei time waste karne ke jagah kutch bhi kama loh to bhi fayada hai.

1st lecture toh free mei dene key liye taiyar hoon - bus 100 logon ka audience collect kar do aur venue taiyar kar loh !!!!
Came true

 Overall analysis of 2012 predictions

After 2011, where much to my surprise, there were more misses than I expected, 2012 turned out to be more predictable. Most of the asset allocations, risk expectations and return expectations managed to come true, as you can see with the individual statements and the comment in red above.

I want to wait for the Gujarat elections before venturing out with a prediction exercise for 2013, which I will post with the new year.

I will also try to put in some new concepts gained from discussions on IREF (like the asset of the year/decade and asset to avoid concept of last year). Will have to read through some of the discussions here for that.

I am finding it too wearysome to analyse the previous predictions of 2011 line by line. Instead, I will try to post an updated long term prediction from 2013 onwards instead.

Cheers,

Venky

Monday, December 17, 2012

More on RBI and gold prices

RBI reserves are not money owned by Indian govt - they are foreign exchange parked with RBI by various entities against which RBI releases Indian currency - and whenever these entities want to surrender Indian currency and take out foreign currency, RBI has to oblige.

Even a 10 billion dollar outflow over and above usual demands results in a 5-10% depreciation of Rupee - and vice versa - even a 10 billion inflow over and above the normal makes the Rupee appreciate.

That means that some 3% of our total reserves changing direction of flow in a fluctuating manner can cause our currency to see saw. We have all seen this over the last 5 years - very scary.

Even more scary is the fact that we are importing (50 plus) billion dollars worth of gold every year. We cant afford to do that and still have a stable currency - a self fulfilling vicious cycle of currency depreciation - gold appreciation - more investment into gold - more currency depreciation - as nauseum - can set in and depreciate our currency a lot within a short time.

50 billion dollars is some 2-3% of our GDP. 

And total value of gold in India is some 1 trillion dollars (58 lakh crore Rupees) according to a recent news article. That is almost as much as our stock market is worth.

Too much. This has to stop or govt has to stop it - either a big import duty or a full stop on e-gold (still only 11000 crores last I heard which is peanuts compared to physical gold). 

In which case gold will be finished. I would be quite careful with gold - too many uncertainties.